HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

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HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by Anthony Duffield » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:15 pm

Just got back from a trip to Cadwell Park and while there noticed oil on the rear wheel, once home got the bike on the lift and found the lower rear chain gaiter split and leaking at the wheel end.

Andover Norton do not have any in stock, I have yet to ask Startright but in the meantime does anyone have a spare they can lend or sell?

Thanks
Tony

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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by Zed » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:00 pm

Had the same problem. Got mine off Graham. He had some left when i got mine.

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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by Anthony Duffield » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:19 am

Zed,

Many thanks, I will call Graham.

Tony

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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by Anthony Duffield » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:28 am

All,

I have managed to acquire two used but good gaiters from acquaintances within the ROC and NOC so I should be OK for a while, note that there are no new gaiters available.

What concerns me is that without a supply of new gaiters my Commander would not be the long distance tourer I need, OK I could run the rear chain exposed like a lot of other tourers but they are designed to have an exposed chain our Commanders are not.

Perhaps running out of spares will be what finally puts an end to these amazing bikes.

Tony

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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by re5rotary » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:42 am

If the tooling still exists can we not work with whoever owns the tooling to run off another batch? regards Terry

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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by Anthony Duffield » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:35 pm

Terry,

I would like to keep my Commander on the road for as long as possible, living north of Aberdeen and touring Holland, Belgium and France this summer plus runs to GT Yarmouth etc etc I have so far covered nearly 5k miles this year, not a massive amount I know when compared to others but still good for a bike that's 28 years old.

Richard and Graham are a good source of engine parts, I can see gearboxes are going to be an issue if I have a problem with my gearbox I would look at Nova Racing http://www.novaracing.co.uk/ for help, most everything else can be obtained from either Andover Norton, Startright or Yambits.

I would hope that others who run bikes with the Norton rotary engine and subscribe to this forum, would agree that it would seem logical to join forces to ensure a supply of the parts that for whatever reason are not considered viable for suppliers to hold in stock,.

There was some discussion recently concerning rotor bearings see "Reclaiming rotary engine components" it may be fanciful to think that we can keep these bikes on the road indefinitely but by working together I'm sure we can have a good go at it.

Tony

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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by johnbirchjar » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:41 pm

Didn't the original chain gators come from MZ's?and I should emagine there is an MZ's club smiley.
I remember some years back making enquiries re:a compleat set of stronger gearbox cogs from a company in Sussex,and I got the impression they could make anything to do with gearboxes,and specialised in "One Off's".(and if memory serves they quoted about two and a half grand exclaim) so I suppose if one was really desperate one could contact them,J.B.

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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by Zed » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:06 am

I am personally hoping that in the next 5-10 years ALM will come down to a cost point that many of these issues can be resolved simply by printing some of the components out. These will need to be drawn up in a CAD package but if the original drawings are available, this can be done (or GOM scan the original part). Compatible materials will be the key here as i don't think you will be able to match the identical material. Rubber/plastics should not be a problem, although surface finish might.

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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by re5rotary » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:42 am

Hi the MZ mention could be a possibility then https://www.pieces-motos-mz.net/catalog ... mage/1173/

what do you think?

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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by Richard Negus » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:17 pm

I believe I commented on the MZ suggestion some while ago.

The MZ gaiter will not replace the Norton Item because:-
.the MZ gaiter is much shorter than the Norton
.the MZ chain is 428, or 1/2" x 5/16"
.the Norton chain is 530, or 5/8" x 3/8"

Andover Norton own the original mould tool for the Norton gaiter but, without sufficient demand from customers, have no incentive to make a batch.
To cover the overhead costs using the mould, a probable minimum batch would be 50 - 100 pieces.
AN is a commercial organisation so if enough people place firm orders, they will make a new batch.
R.
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Re: HELP Commander Rear Chain Gaiter

Post by johnbirchjar » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:28 pm

I suppose in the unlikely event of all the ROC club members ordering a pair, we might just about have enough for A/N to make a batch smiley,other than that, I hear that "Gorilla Tape"( same as "Gappa Tape", only about 5 times as strong cool)may do the trick, J.B.

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