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Hi, I never really left ,I just forgot my password. My user name was 'nedbonnierider'.The frustration of trying to retrieve the bloody thing and being told 'this e-mail add is already in use ,and this user name is already in use so you can't use them 'cost me an old laptop which got a re-programming it will never forget (it went flying across the room).It was easier to re-join !! So Hello ,Richard Negus ,if you read this the Commander engine you re-built for me is running great. Cheers .Ned